03.11.04
Amazingly Yahoo Sucks Even More
In an astounding show of jackassedness Yahoo deleted my Yahoo ID last year with no warning and no explanation. The Yahoo ID was the owner of 4 Yahoo groups including a humor list I had been operating since 1991 (I moved it to Yahoo in 2001) all of which are orphaned. I have sent numerous requests for an explanation, for the list of members of the groups, to have the groups transferred or at least to have them killed to Yahoo all of which are answered with a ‘We care about you, here is your case ID’ email and never another word. Earlier this year I even called the Yahoo office in California and spoke with a nice young lady who was unable to help me and told me to email the same address I had been trying to contact for the last few months.
I had pretty much given up on Yahoo (I will not use any of their services any more) until today when I saw a virus infected message appear in my inbox sent to (you guessed it) the largest of the groups I had set up. I am not sure how this happened since that group was only supposed to distribute emails sent from my account and Yahoo Groups had supposedly deleted the group but somehow the 800 member group seems to still be in existence and is accepting messages from some virus infected source masquerading as me. By now I know that trying to get any cooperation from Yahoo is impossible but I have to wonder if there is anything to be done. I hate to think that the members of my old list could start getting infected messages because of Yahoo’s mediocrity.
jay said,
June 26, 2004 at 10:29 pm
Yahoo Web hosting is full of incompetent jackasses! I changed my Credit card on file and their computer f’d up and did not do the change! At least 14 times I had to re enter the info, and they could not figure out how to correct the problem, so they cancelled my account and deleted my business website just after we mailed out over 2,000 postcards that directed potential customers to our website! I spent over $100 on phone calls(and many hours of being redirected back and forth from billing to tech support. And several Hundred on a Lawyer. We are now filing a suit against them for damages in excess of $50,000.
Vash said,
August 18, 2004 at 2:52 pm
(Sarcasm Mode=On)
You’re gonna *love* this. As a part of their ‘anti-spam’ tactics, Yahoo now allows its members
to create disposable accounts.
Well, I guess I should have known better, since I had read Gulliver’s Travels as a kid and know what
the word Yahoo actually means.
DaBull said,
April 20, 2005 at 11:56 am
Same damn thing just happened to me. I was online early this morning. Had to leave for a bit, and when I came back my damn profile was gone and one of my groups! WTF?!?!?
I know I am going to get no where with yahoo, but I am going to harrass the shit out of them.
Luckily, with all my contacts, I am able to get ahold of the important people from my group, but still, I lost all my valuable info that was in my profile. Emials, membership info, pictures.
Fing bullsh!t
Cubey said,
April 25, 2005 at 6:06 am
Yahoo Groups and Geocities are an easy targets for getting your account suspended.
They just did it to me last week for the third time. They deleted ONE of my THREE groups and suspended my account.
I had another account last month that got suspended just for being a member of some group that was deleted by Yahoo.
A couple years ago when I had a small site on Geocities and they did the same thing to me, but at least at that time they sent an form letter email stating it had to do with Geocities.
Yahoo seriously needs to tell people what they did “wrong” so they at least know not to do it again.
Praxy said,
April 28, 2005 at 5:26 pm
Yahoo is a big sucker. The process of sending emails to a lists is too way too lengthy. Earlier, when the name of the list is entered and hit send, it wud send mail to everyone in the list. Now we hv to goto the address book, select the contact, then press send mail button, then compose msg, then SEND. Whew!!!
I dont even understand another thing. I wanted to retain a contact in my msgr list but want to remove the item from my address book in my mail. When I delete a contact frm address book, this stupid is also deleting it frm my msgr.. was that necessary???
Yahoo is BIG LOZAA.. tryin to get customers by offering 1 GB space.. BULL$HIT!
Nada Mucho said,
June 22, 2005 at 9:40 pm
Yahoo SM. I tried to sign up for it for 3 days in a row. Called Yahoo SM support - they told me they are having an issue. Another guy told me to enter searchmarketing.yahoo.com into my PC trusted zone. I did. Nothing worked. Still could not get past 1st or 2nd sign up page. The first day sign-up buttons were deactivated, could not past to 2nd page of YSM sign up online. Gave up. Next day tried again, same thing, called Yahoo, they had no idea what to do. OK. On the third day I started adding all variants of yahoo URLs into trusted zone and finally I added overture.com into trusted one and….. it worked. Not for long. As soon as I signed up, somehow signed up and got my credit card charged IMMEDIATELY! by overture (how about Yahoo SM?) I realised I can not login to https://secure.overture.com/s/dtc/center/?market=us&lang=en_US - tried all kinds of “tricks” such a clearing cache, removing cookies, rebooting PC etc. Nothing worked. Then read one post I used Firefox. I could log in with firefox. OK, it works lame but works. Now I entered a couple dozen keywords etc. then I see that Yahoo SM or Overture removed “s” es from my keywords - for example I entered “socks for sale” so they cut s’es and wrote “sock for sale”! Isn’t that ridiculous? Then I started looking for HOW to EDIT those keywords. Not found! Then I emailed Yahoo SM, got a response which seems ridiculous to me:
“To ensure the security of our advertisers’ account information, we now require all advertiser inquires to be submitted through our Support Request Form, a link to which is found at the bottom of nearly all pages within your account. In addition to ensuring the security of your account information, using the Support Request Form allows us to more efficiently respond to specific types of inquiries, providing you with even better service.
If you are not currently an advertiser and would like information on advertising with Yahoo! Search Marketing, please visit our web site at http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/. For all inquires not related to advertising with Yahoo! Search Marketing, please send us an e-mail at feedback@overture.com.”
“….which is found at the bottom of nearly all pages within your account…” - ha! where is that? And how can I see it if I can’t login?!
I could not find that support request form! Why not post a link to it in their email message!?
OK. Then I gave up trying to EDIT the keywords and started looking for HOW to DELETE those keywords that been cut by Yahoo! Nada. None. Can’t delete!
Then I started looking on how to CLOSE my ACCOUNT. Nada. Then how to get the money back - nada.
Am I missing something? I like Google Ads and Adwords, but this Yahoo SM seems to be some kind of misunderstanding.
laura murwin said,
June 24, 2005 at 3:47 am
i have also had trouble with yahoo.
i still have some groups there . but i had a
user name of rodeogirl19592000 when i tryed to
use it a page came up that said that user name
has not been taken yet. i have had the user name
for over a year. i had 20 groups in that name.
when i tryed to use the yahoo help page my problum
was not listed there. i e mailed them and got
a promt reply. telling me they needed more info
on the problum. i e mailed them back sevral times
and finley gave up. i told them in a e mail that
they would deleat my groups because of inactivey
because i count get to them to post on them and
there for it would be usless to keep sending e
mails to them. after that they dint send any
more e mails. i have lost 20 groups and all the
hard work put into tem as well as te members i
had in those groups. that dont understand why
the owner dosent reply to there posts. i was going back and forth trying to change te owwner
to my self in a diffrent user name but some of them maybe 2 or 3 i can get into but have no owner privleages so i cant change the fronts or get to any of the opshions. its a real mess
LaurA
ryan said,
June 26, 2005 at 2:18 pm
I hate yahoo! I try to enjoy there games especially this game called Yahoo! Towers and the stupid ame keeps having to log back into the server and I keep losing rate when i suddenly get d/c it pisses me off furthur more yahoo’s search engine sucks and there customer service is asinine, idiotic and plain a pain in the ass. I’m glad yahoo is such a target for hackers and script kiddies i don’t like yahoo! setup I don’t like the unstable servers and the damn geocities sites
AEI said,
August 3, 2005 at 12:23 pm
I’ve recently had my yahoo account deleted/deactivated for reasons I’ve yet to determine. I wrote about it here:
http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=socraticimperium
And here:
http://planx.proboards30.com/index.cgi?board=dis&action=display&thread=1122041143
I hope I fare better in my plight to get my account back.
Paul said,
October 13, 2005 at 4:25 pm
Biggest mistake of my life = signing up for yahoo music plus! with musicmatch. The musicmatch program encountered frequent errors because it should still be in testing so I uninstalled the old version of musicmatch and reinstalled the new one. Now I can’t log onto my account anymore using any version of musicmatch. No problem I’ll just contact yahoo and they’ll fix the problem. WRONG! Never have I dealt with such an inept bunch of idiots. For the past month I sent them messages pleading with them to restore the service that I paid for but to no avail. Get this: they just message me back every time and tell me to download the latest version of music match and enter in my name and password. HEY IDIOTS! THIS IS MY PROBLEM! I would just cancel my service but I signed up for a year (stupid I know). Long story short Yahoo sucks. I will never give them a dime of my money again.
Agagooga said,
November 6, 2005 at 1:06 am
I can totally symphatise!
My own sad story with Yahoo:
http://gssq.blogspot.com/2005/10/wages-of-sin-are-unreported_28.html
Luckily I retrieved most of the Yahoo Groups I cared about and managed to migrate them over to my new id (since I had routed the mail delivery to a non-Yahoo account anyway).
Tim Donk said,
November 8, 2005 at 9:16 am
I hate Yahoo! I have had several sites with them and I am now done. I am just a machinst and not a web designer so some of you might know of a better place than what I am going to suggest but heres my two cents.
(Sent to another Yahoo Store owner having problems)
I got tired of paying Yahoo a percentage of my sales just to have a store. Host Excellence offers everything Yahoo has for MUCH LESS. The reason I let others know about this is because I called to have Yahoo downgrade my service and they deleted it, I lost hundreds of hours of work on my store. It’s gone forever, deleted from the server. I didn’t even get a simple “We’re Sorry”. (By the way if you sign up as an affilliate and refer people, they pay you $100 for everyone after the first 4 (you can even refer yourself)
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Jeremyhfht said,
November 15, 2005 at 10:55 pm
Well I’m having this EXACT same problem. My Yahoo! ID (which I’ve used for about 3 or 4 years) has suddenly been deactivated for “Violation of the ToS (Terms of Service)”. I have sent multiple requests for the EXACT reason of deactivation (such as what exact violation happened) and I have yet to receive a reply. Thus, I’ve been e-mailing yahoo once per day. Each time I revise the e-mail so it includes an easy to understand grammar system (no fancy 10+ letter words. Yahoo! people are too stupid to understand them), more direct approaches (Again, those who I’m e-mailing are apparently too stupid to understand anything but the 100% direct), and limiting my outrage to a simple “If these requests are not met I shall continue to e-mail”.
My user name is very important. I’ve been doing research lately on a number of things including Philosophy, Atheism, and Theism, Physics, Astronomy, and Psychology on the side. Now thanks to yahoo! deactivating my account my research has slowed down by a substantial amount (I had a number of important people on that list. 90% of which I can’t contact now). Since it’s hard to find such a vast amount of person to person conversation anywhere else. If my Yahoo! ID doesn’t get reactivated within the next month I’m going to be SEVERELY pissed off.
WARNING TO ALL OF YOU: BACKUP YOUR FRIENDS LISTS AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION! ALWAYS KEEP A BACKUP! Nobody knows when Yahoo! will decide to randomly deactivate YOUR account! You may lose important friends, people you know in real life whom you can’t contact otherwise, or any number of things.
Ending Quote: The intelligent, the stupid, and the Yahoo!
If anybody can help me fix this problem they may contact me via MSN: Jeremyhfht@gmail.com
Mr. VanderWerff said,
November 30, 2005 at 8:04 pm
I signed up for Yhoo unlimited music 7 days ago, sometimes I’m able to listen to a full song and other times it makes me do the 30 second thing. Its hit and miss from day to day. I’m wondering if anyone else out there is having the same problem. Also when reading the contract they say you can pay 5 bucks month to month and quit when ever you want, thats what I signed up for, but a few days after paying I went back into my account and they had me down for paying almost 60 bucks December 1st. for a full year even though I signed the contract originally on november 23nd. for what I thought was month to month.Besides all that I have writen above one final word……save your money and time, Kazaa is much more simple to find the songs your looking for.
Teresa said,
February 2, 2006 at 9:00 pm
I’m glad to see threads like this. I have to get the word out about the negligence of this service provider.
My problem pertains to Yahoo! Bill Pay. One day in October, in the middle of using their secure website, I got booted out unexpectedly, and my login was never accepted by the Bill Pay service again. The payment schedule that I had been in the middle of modifying went on to debit on a recurring cycle, even though the user interface was never restored — instead, I’d get an “Already Enrolled?” screen that would notify customer service of the problem and my user ID. Customer service would repeatedly tell me how to log in or enroll before admitting they were having technical problems. They obviously did not recognize the glitch for what it was; I explained it as plainly as possible and even their own software explained it plainly when I clicked “Submit” on the prompt. They also proved unwilling to upchannel the problem to a programmer, or provide me with a customer service number (unlisted), call me as I’d requested several times, or cease the payment activity that I emphasized required speedy handling. They should have been alarmed when a user dropped out of the directory with no history of cancellation, and they were not remotely concerned. But this user pointed out that fees and payments kept being removed from her bank account, after her user ID dropped completely out of the directory, so it should have been recognized as a major oversight that required immediate isolation and correction. No one could seem to comprehend why I was complaining. The NSF fees, as a result of those unwanted payments stressing my finances for months, are staggering (>$1K). I did everything in my power to resolve the situation with Yahoo! customer reps. They would leave me hanging as to the outcome each time I requested help, other than lip service and hollow apologies. I could not tell until the next payment withdrew whether they’d complied with my request for termination or not. (I requested termination in writing five times and never got it.) Ultimately they never fixed the disconnect between the online portion (Yahoo!) and the bill payer (CheckFree), which should be inextricably linked; rather, they let it be my problem to deal with in the coldness of cyberspace and with creditors to worry about. My bank tried to stop the payments for me, but it was an ineffective method. Now I’m closing my bank account and also involving an attorney. I have the entire email history, the appearance of the “Already Enrolled?” screen, and my bank statements among the evidence.
Did anyone else have a problem that involved an extended service interruption, particularly with Bill Pay?
In my opinion, they had 12 hours to resolve the problem; then when they failed to debug their problem, they should have disclosed it with a list of remedy options and a phone number. They offered me no remedy for the situation created by their faulty software-driven product and inept staff. No one took ownership of the problem. Although I received a lot of assurances that my problem was with the “appropriate department for review and consideration” and that “your satisfaction is our #1 goal,” I would get no follow-up emails. The sweeping apologies were a cavalier smokescreen for their see-nothing, do-nothing attitude.
The bottom line is, I do not owe explanations to the service; they owe explanations to me, without requiring activism on my part. This type of service should have a failsafe method of staying online. And if termination is requested, it should be handled as a priority business matter. The lack of initiative, lack of comprehension, absence of personal contact, and supervisory aloofness will be very evident when I present my case. Yahoo! has no business delving into personal bank accounts; they lack the integrity.
Integrity requires: 1) actual concern for the customer, 2) a robust product, 3) ownership of problems, 4) technicians capable of resolving problems, 5) a public number, and 6) responsible management. This company represents the dreaded faceless corporation that generates revenue while not practicing good stewardship. They lack the ability to comprehend a crisis when one occurs, let alone acknowledge that a disruption to their own service has transpired.
GeekRoar » The Death of PWASOH said,
May 14, 2006 at 7:56 am
[…] The People With A Sense Of Humor (PWASOH) mailing list was started in 1991 when I sent a joke to a set of co-workers and got cheers from some and jeers from others who did not want their message boxes (this was before email) filled up with crap. I let people know that they could be added to the ‘People with a sense of humor’ list if they wanted to get more jokes and that anyone could be added or dropped at any time. Over time the list grew to friends, their friends, their friends’ relatives, people who they happened to chat with at a coffee shop. Sometime around 1997 a picture I posted of an airport hangar filled with fire-retardant foam got passed around aviation web sites and my web server (running out of a closet in my home) was brought down to it’s knees as traffic increased 200 fold overnight. The following hundreds of requests to be added to the list forced a move from personal email management to a Yahoo Group where people could sign up and drop off as they wished. I knew the list had ‘made it’ when, during a vacation in Hawaii, a perfect stranger stopped me on a street corner to ask if I was ‘that joke guy’. Honest engine, it really happened. The encounter left me a bit dumfounded but was neither the first nor the last. Then in 2001 disaster struck. Someone reported the mailing list to Yahoo as being in violation of their policies and without so much as a ‘hey, you did something wrong’ Yahoo killed the PWASOH list, and banned me from Yahoo. Various attempts to find out what the offense was met with nothing more than ‘Thank you for contacting Yahoo, someone will get back to you’ and nothing more. To this day I have no idea what the offense was, some cartoon I posted that was copyrighted? The use of a swear word in a joke? Some Republican offended at a political joke? The experience of loosing the archive going back years and the list of recipients (I had some backups, but they were never very good) and of being treated so poorly so demoralized me that I gave the list up for dead. Occasional queries from friends or list members caused me to give the list one more go. I set up a new server, installed a list manager, tested various combinations of blog software and did a lot of testing, but I was never quite satisfied with the setup so I settled for parking the visual jokes (mostly photoshoped images or scans of funny ads) on an online gallery with an FAQ promising the list would one day be back. Last year I got some steam to start PWASOH up again and set up a new blog that could be posted to via email (for easy posting of jokes) as well as a new discussion group manager. Things were looking well for a PWASOH returns party when I got a notice my domain was about to expire. No problem, I said, I will just move this to my new host and re-launch the site! I made three attempts to move the domain registration, not wanting to pay the 4x price being asked for renewal by the old registrar but no matter how many forms I filled or automated domain moving tools I used the domain just would not go. I figured, all-right I will let the registration expire then re-purchase it using my new registrar. Wrong. The day the domain expired I tried to re-purchase it to find Network Solutions was ‘holding on to it for 30 days in case I changed my mind’. Gee thanks, that is NOT what I needed, but ok, I guess I will try again a bit later, only to find cyber squatters had bought the domain straight out from under me. All I can say is GAAAHHHH!!! Network Solutions sucks just about as badly as Yahoo does! I guess I can’t blame the squatters. There were a lot of links out to PWASOH, mainly from sites promoting funny pictures and all that traffic for the low price of a registration must have been good for the bastards that stole PWASOH dot com from under me… hmm looks like I can blame them. Oh well, defeated once again I think it is time to put the old list finally to rest. It had a good run, no make that a great run and brought many smiles to many people, but there are times when I guess you can’t ignore the universe saying ‘move on now, nothing else to see here’. Farewell PWASOH, I miss you. I miss the daily jokes. I miss the odd encounters. But most of all I miss those emails I got every so often saying ‘thank you, this joke had me smiling all day’. […]
BLD said,
June 3, 2006 at 9:25 am
I rececntly too am supposedly without a Yahoo ID. One morning, all Email was just fine, I went to work went home wanting to get into my directory where (foolish me I suppose) was keeping addresses valuable to me. And now for some reason my ID “Or” Password is invalid. GONE! It has been a week and one day now. I have emailed them repeatidly and only automated responses. Now while I realize it is a free service, but does that mean Yahoo has to be rude and inconsiderate.
Why my ID is gone…I don’t know. There was no warning. I use no fowl language on their services. And even then I don’t know even if I were to openly, that would even matter. I see the worst things typed out on their public services…or did until I refused to stop using them this week.
If this is any indication of their payed service, I hope nobody suckers themselves into it.
Valerie said,
June 14, 2006 at 11:58 am
I HATE YAHOO!!!
2 major reasons. First I have not been able to log into my mail since yesterday. I have online business I just started and must get into the mail account. I changed my password as I do periodically and ever since then it says “Temporary Problem Accessing Mail”. I tried over and over. I sent a report and got an automated messege back. It just says try reloading or logging in again if that doesn’t work click here to email us. So I did that and nothing. I thought last night by this morning they’d have it fixed. They don’t. I sent a report 3 times. I called the sales number since I have yahoo web hosting. I was suprised a human answered b/c I thought yahoo was run by bots. I was transferred to the technical number. The prerecorded messege said We are aware many people can not get into their email, our engineers are working on that. For all other requests stay on the line. So I hung up. So I would imagine Yahoo would have a team of computer geniuses working there, but I still can not get into my account and it’s very important. I have online receipts stored there and someone is waiting back to hear from me about web design, I don’t know their email b/c it’s in my mail account. 2 days may not seem long to some people but to me it’s a very long time, I should be able to access it anytime. *If* I can ever get back in I am forwarding all important stuff and email addresses and opening a non yahoo email account. I want to cancel my webhosting account, but I read their TOS and it sounds like if you cancel they will take your domain name away and put it in their name-if you cancel before a certain amount of time, I’m not quite clear on this. I am never registering a domain or signing up for webhosting or any other service ever again. If you use a smaller company at least they have customer service and you can speak to a human instead of just getting automated responses. Oh yeah and if someone actually did go to my website and try to contact me I can’t get that email.
The other problem happened a 2 or 3 years ago. I had an id and email since 1999. No problems. Then suddenly the account is closed. No explanation. First I never did any thing bad or even said one bad word with that email. And even if I did, they wouldn’t shut it down for that, if you’ve been to yahoo chats you see the nastiest people there. It was just what I used to correspond. And for no reason it’s gone. I try to register it again, but it says it’s already taken. I emailed them several times over and over asking why, how can I get back in and got nothing but a few automated responses. Since all the emails were stored there I lost a lot of contacts because I don’t know their email and had no way of contacting them. So I signed up a new yahoo account. Very stupid I should have signed up elsewhere. And then this problem.
Yahoo is a giant, millions and millions of customers but have the worst customer service on the planet. Yahoo should go down and be replaced by a more reliable company that cares about it’s customers. If yahoo was in any other industry they would be out of business.
I HATE YAHOO
TSUP1999 said,
July 3, 2006 at 2:31 pm
YAHOO SUCKS. I HATE YAHOO. NOTHING BUT ADS. OMG PLEASE dont suspend my tsup199@yahoo account?? I dont know what I will ever do if you suspend me and I cant look at your F*$^@#7 ads all day.. OH NO PLZ DONT
I know the yahoo ads made my 8 yr old sister curse at our mom, because she got so frustrated. SO SCREW YOU YAHOO>
darren said,
July 5, 2006 at 4:50 am
Hi all
I have the same problem. I just open an account with overture which was now under yahoo.
Telling me to login from https://secure.overture.com/s/dtc/center/?mkt=us&lang=en_US
Until now with an account with overture i couldn’t even login in once. Help Help What can i do now? There is no support at all. Could not even email or cantact them.There are no way to contact them at all.
Even i want to close my account with them also cannot for now.
Anyone advice. I was so disappointed with overture. I only can said overture suck suck suck stay with google.
BRD said,
July 21, 2006 at 12:04 pm
Yahoo is the AOL of the 21st century. They will soon dry up and be nothing but a memory in internet history.
Anyone who sells out their subscribers in a communist nation where that subscriber may very well be killed for their thoughts deserves death themselves, and I hope that Yahoo gets their ass handed to them.
jOHN said,
July 25, 2006 at 7:55 pm
All I did was change my password, now I can’t accesss my accout, I have pay services too!! I’m so Pissed, I finally got it to recognize my ID but still can’t log in. I get a new temp password and it won’t work. I used to love Yahoo, used it for years with no problems, now I can’t get a response. I’ve lost very important comtacts that I have no copies of and other important information. WTF? Why don’t they care about their customers, I guess because the money rolls in anyway. All this technology and they can’t get it right.
Michale said,
August 18, 2006 at 7:33 am
I just off the phone with Yahoo. I transferred several domains away from them a few months ago and they’ve tried to bill me for one of them. After about 45 minutes on the phone they weren’t able to explain why they were billing me for one domain that was transferred away when the others were ok - yet that it was my fault. Even their own website said they weren’t the registrar. They said that I should have contacted them when really it was their own computer system that should have told them they were no longer my registrar.
Don’t use Yahoo Domain!!! Yahoo Domains SUCK!!!
www.yahooboy.com said,
August 24, 2006 at 3:44 am
Last Updated August 24,2006
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*Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
ya·hoo Pronunciation: ‘yA-(”)hü, ‘yä- Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural yahoos
1 capitalized : a member of a race of brutes in Swift’s Gulliver’s Travels who have the form and all the vices of
humans
2 [influenced by 2yahoo] : a boorish, crass, or stupid person - ya·hoo·ism /-”i-z&m/ noun
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WERE USED BY DAN AT YAHOO. THIS E-MAIL WAS SENT TO THE ISP AND IT’S CONTENT STAGGERS ME.
DAN MADE NO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT US BEFORE SENDING IT. IT’S CONTENT IS MALICIOUS AND
ALMOST LAUGHABLE. OUR REPLY CONCERN FOUR POINTS OF THIS E-MAIL WHICH DISPLAYS IT’S
TRUE NATURE. BELOW IS THE ORIGINAL E-MAIL SENT IN EARLY JUNE OF 2006.
Yahoo! IP Enforcement
ipenforcement3@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
nocsupervisor@networksolutions.com
Red
Galerias 3, Zona 5,
Panama 5235,
Panama
Dear Red:
Yahoo! Inc. (”Yahoo!”) is aware of the registration of the following domain name: yahooboy.com (the “Domain”).
As you know, the YAHOO! trademark is one of the most recognized brands in the world and yahoo.com is one of the leading
Internet sites. The registration of the Domain constitutes trademark infringement and unfair competition, and dilutes and
tarnishes the famous YAHOO! trademark. The damage to Yahoo! is particularly acute given that the website located at the
Domain offers adult content.
Yahoo! provides this opportunity to resolve the matter informally. By no later than June 15, 2006, you must:
(1) deactivate the website located at the Domain and cease all unauthorized use of the Yahoo! mark and name;
(2) agree to transfer to Yahoo! ownership of the Domain as well as any other YAHOO-formative domain names owned or
controlled by you; and
(3) agree to permanently refrain from any future unlawful registration and use of the YAHOO! mark, or any other mark, name,
domain name, or designation that is confusingly similar to the Yahoo! name or marks.
Upon your timely action in deactivating the websites and our receipt of the requested written assurances, Yahoo!’s agent will
initiate the transfer of the Domain(s). All rights and remedies expressly reserved.
We look forward to your anticipated cooperation.
Dan
Corporate Counsel Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
Tel: 408-349-5712
Fax: 408-349-6208
YAHOOBOY REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL BELOW
1. The word YAHOO & YAHOOBOY are not the same. Just as the word COW & BOY are not the same as COWBOY.
2.YAHOOBOY does not associate itself in any way with YAHOO and does not use any trademarks or other information to
even suggest that both sites are related.
3. The printed word YAHOO appeared as early as 1726 in the novel GULLIVERS TRAVELS by Jonathan Swift almost
300 years ago. If anyone is guilty of infringement, it is YAHOO as this word was NOT CREATED by them. The printed word
yahoo is at least 270 years old and the AUDIBLE SOUND of the word yahoo has been in MANY television and theatrical
movies for at least 50 years prior too the YAHOO! trademark registration. They own the trademark and logo. They do not
OWN the word or it’s sound.
4. The most blatant comment of DAN’s e-mail was the issue concerning that adult content was tarnishing the YAHOO!
trademark;
The registration of the Domain constitutes trademark infringement and unfair competition, and dilutes and tarnishes
the famous YAHOO! trademark. The damage to Yahoo! is particularly acute given that the website located at the
Domain offers adult content.
YAHOO! due to it’s search engine, has more adult content on it’s site than anyone, which can be easily accessed by anyone.
This may not the nature of YAHOO! except for one issue. YAHOO! earns income by advertising PORN SITES in their
SPONSOR RESULTS. The link http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/basics/basics-03.html displays the below;
What are the different sections on the Search results page?
Sponsor Results: Sponsor Results are sites that pay for placement in search results on keywords that are relevant to their
business. These listings are Yahoo! Sponsored Search listings and appear on Yahoo! Search results pages and other sections
of Yahoo!. You’ll see Sponsor Results when they’re relevant to the specific search terms you used. For example, if you search
for “digital cameras,” you’ll see Sponsor Results for web sites that provide information about or sell digital cameras. The
Yahoo! Search results pages separate Sponsor Results from other results so you can tell them apart. For more information
please refer to the Sponsor Results FAQs. To participate in this program, please see Sponsored Search.
This clearly exposes DAN for what he is. We even spoke to DAN and offered to sell both domains, yet he refused. On
AUGUST 16 a domain dispute was filed with NAF and a NY law firm is represenitive of the complaintant. Below is a copy of
the e-mail we received from the ISP;
DEAR YAHOOBOY;
We received the NAF filed complaint on 8/16/2006 from a Law Firm:
For the purpose of this proceeding, Complainant should be contacted through its counsel, David M. Kelly of Finnegan,
Henderson, Farabow, Garrett & Dunner, L.L.P., as follows:
E-mail (preferred):david.kelly@finnegan.com and leslie.gutowski@finnegan.com
Tel: 202-408-4000
Fax: 202-408-4400
Mail: 901 New York Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20001-4413
You should receive notice of the complaint from NAF within the next few days, along with information to assist you in
defending the domain(s).
In closing, I am staggered that any company would stoop so low.
JMA Inc.
PO Box 75609
Oklahoma City, OK. 73147
Leopoldo said,
August 24, 2006 at 5:46 am
Just to be clear that last comment refers not to this domain but to the domain www.yahooboy.com. Check that domain out for details.
Greg said,
August 26, 2006 at 8:08 am
Yahoo is an awful company. I only have an account with them because everyone I chat with uses their “service”. About a year ago I update my Geocities account to the ad-free version for about $4.95/month. Luckily when I cancelled it they gave me no problems but I know how their support is. Everytime I have to contact them with a technical problem they reply “We could not replicate your problem on our end.” and that’s it! Well obviously not Yahoo because you people are using $5 billion dollar machines and have geniuses to fix them when you break them! I’m not so lucky, hence the fact I’m using your service! I will never use any free Yahoo service again, let alone one you have to pay for!
JaysNet News said,
September 3, 2006 at 4:10 am
Have you ever read the YAHOO TERMS OF SERVICE” ?
We reasearched and what we found staggered us. Anyone who has a yahoo account MUST READ THIS.The last term in this YAHOO! TOS is the most laughable of all!
Although the comments placed here are in deed a true picture of what YAHOO! is, nothing will shock you more than the YAHOO! terms of service at www.jaysnet.com/yahoo.html
Below are some interesting terms from YAHOO!
Terms of Service (”TOS”),
which may be updated by us from time to time without notice to you.
You understand that through your use of the Service you consent to the collection
and use (as set forth in the Privacy Policy) of this information, including the transfer of this information to the United States
and/or other countries for storage, processing and use by Yahoo! and its affiliates.
You agree to indemnify and hold Yahoo! and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, employees, partners and licensors
harmless from any claim or demand, including reasonable attorneys’ fees, made by any third party due to or arising out of
Content you submit, post, transmit or otherwise make available through the Service, your use of the Service, your connection to
the Service, your violation of the TOS, or your violation of any rights of another.
Yahoo! reserves the right at any time and from time to time to modify or discontinue, temporarily or permanently, the Service
(or any part thereof) with or without notice
Further, you agree that all terminations for cause shall be made in
Yahoo!’s sole discretion and that Yahoo! shall not be liable to you or any third party for any termination of your account, any
associated email address, or access to the Service.
YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES, OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND
LICENSORS MAKE NO WARRANTY THAT (i) THE SERVICE WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS; (ii) THE
SERVICE WILL BE UNINTERRUPTED, TIMELY, SECURE OR ERROR-FREE;
YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT YAHOO! AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES, AFFILIATES,
OFFICERS, EMPLOYEES, AGENTS, PARTNERS AND LICENSORS SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY
DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING,
BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER
INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF YAHOO! HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES)
The section titles in the TOS are for convenience only and have no legal or
contractual effect.
Copyright Agent
c/o Yahoo! Inc.
701 First Avenue
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
By phone: (408) 349-5080
By fax: (408) 349-7821
By email: copyright@yahoo-inc.com
eerin said,
October 8, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Yahoo deleted my email account as well. I had no idea that they did this. Every time I email them, they either do no reply or tell me they need information. I reply by asking what information is needed, which means they never respond. I can’t believe that they won’t even own up to losing accounts. Mine just disappeared one night. I went to sign-in using the same user and password I’ve had for the last 7 years, but to no avail. Either someone can hack into the Yahoo system or they are completely incompetent. But whatever the result, they obviously could care less about customer satisfaction.
Sara Kirchheimer said,
November 2, 2006 at 8:28 pm
I had a really awful experience with a local upholsterer in my town. He is a “sponsored” business with YAHOO and is given a priority listing (Loopers Upholstery, Greenville, SC). He told me he would refurbish an antique couch and have it back in five days. Ten weeks later, I was able to get the couch and fabric back by threatening him with The Better Business Bureau. No work had been done. I rated him at YAHOO and wrote a description of the transaction. It never posted. I assume that paying to be a “sponsored” listing on YAHOO means that the business is protected from any rating that is less than perfect. Therefore, YAHOO’s rating system is inherently corrupt and no “sponsored” business can be assumed to be honestly reflected in ratings posted there. –Sara Kirchheimer
zafer gerecci said,
December 18, 2006 at 5:18 am
my 4 years paid yahoo email service and all other ones notebook, bookmark..etc and again paid geocities suddenly gone.. YUUUHHOO
Daniel Taylor said,
December 18, 2006 at 11:05 pm
Avoid Yahoo At All Costs
I’ve had a commercial web site hosted by Yahoo for years. It was originally hosted by SimpleNet, which Yahoo bought. In the past year their service has become completely unacceptable.
Emails are spotty at best. I’ve contacted their tech support with detailed information pointing to the problems on their servers. I never got any response beyond “we care about you, here’s an email template discussing Outlook settings.” To the idiots at Yahoo: I wrote my own SMTP test app to verify that the problem had nothing to do with anything on my end. Do you really think I can’t figure out my Outlook settings?!?
It gets better: uploaded a product update to my web site and tested it this morning. Everything fine. Came home this evening to find my site down with an embarrassing “disk space violation” error page for all my customers to see. Disk space violation? I pay for 250 MB of disk space and am using 64 MP. In what new math is 64 > 250?
I’m done. I got a new web host tonight. I’ve updated my DNS records. I’ve called my credit card company to reverse the bill on Yahoo this month. And Yahoo is history.
AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS!!!
Melegaunt said,
February 19, 2007 at 2:07 am
Well,
Glad to see I am not the only one.
I had my account suspended yesterday because I asked a question about LaserTag on Yahoo Answers. Needless to say someone didnt like the way it was phrased, created a fake account, and flagged my question over and over until they suspended everything. Answers, finance, mail, groups, everything.
Unlike some of you tho, I have had my accounts for 14 years. I will start legal action against them if i dont get it back. Over a decade of information they think they can just take from me, because of their own negligence.
I think not.
Leopoldo said,
February 19, 2007 at 6:58 am
If you do pursue action with Yahoo I (and I assume other readers of this page) would be very interested in reading about how it goes.
jfb828 said,
February 27, 2007 at 10:13 pm
FIRST AND FOREMOST:
If you have paid extra for webhosting AND to be unlisted on WHOIS.com, check WHOIS and you will most probably find your site listing, your name and last name, complete address, telephone number, IP address…….!!!!
Mine was and I paid for the extra so that I will be unlisted.
I dont need to type in what had happened to me.
After reading all these postings, I realize that my horrible experience has been the same, similar and just as frustrating as all of you.
I do believe that the owner of yahoo do not even know that their frontliners need to be monitored. Are they competent…? Far from that. But do they have the right to talk down to customers as if they were kids who have just been caught doing something wrong…? No.
I just yelled (finally) at their lady customer service. Instead of a professional “I apologize…” nope.
Instead she kept saying: Jfb, listen jfb……!!!!! over and over when all I wanted was for her to stop really agitating me and give me the supervisor.
Tackless. Incompetent. Ignorant.
If she had apologized right from the beginning, I would not have gotten all crossed. I told her she should stop talking to me like she owned yahoo.
She wanted the last word…..is this professional?
Does Yahoo know their customer service does this?
Do they ever replay their recording…?
Can we do something about this…….?
YES of course. WE need to speak with the highest person of the YAHOO “empire”.
If they are outsourcing their customer service….they sure have low qualifying standards.
Yahoo, this should be am excellent ad for you…on TV, talk shows, the papers, all over the internet!!!
After I paid with my card: nothing worked except the ADD EMAILS and FILE MANAGER. What was I supposed to do with that alone?
YAHOO step down and abolish your company.
You cased me a lot of stress in the week that I signed up with you and canceled just as quickly.
And your customer service……
And my information on website……
How can you sleep at night…………….????
Eddie said,
March 26, 2007 at 6:59 am
Yahoo deactivated my account & now I have no access to my domains. Has anyone had success in transferring domains after Yahoo shuts you down?
Anson Holzer said,
June 14, 2007 at 7:52 pm
My Yahoo ID and Geocities account were deactivated 3 days ago by Yahoo!. Customer Service is a full dead end. The one email address given me to contact will not re-activate the account - I get “stock” responses. They’ve not told me how I broke the TOS. I am threatening and will persue legal action. My livelihood (business information in complete), medical records, family coorespondence, etc. are all in yahoo - 7 years of it. I’ve given them multiple options for data retrieval and delivery to me, and they’ve yet to respond. I’ve contacted the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation) and they say a lot of folks are having these problems. One can drive a truck through Yahoo!’s TOS - it’s broadly worded. I’m going to rip Yahoo! a new one, or go poor trying.
Tan from Thailand said,
June 26, 2007 at 5:44 am
My yahoo affiliate marketing account was hacked
thousands of $ was stolen
I send my urgent message to them
They reply me 1 month later …god! yahoo really got technical services
..but their reply cannot help me.
I told them some infomation.
I wait……..nothing happen.
bye bye yahoo
You sucks!
Faith said,
July 1, 2007 at 8:47 am
I absolutely HATE Yahoo!!
They just shut down your site for any reason they feel like. When you try to get a reply it takes days and sometimes you never get one at all. I started out being nice, but eventually I got nasty because I couldn’t get them to reply. I’ll probably never hear from them again and I’ll probably never see my site again.
I’m moving on to someone else. Never again will I deal with those jerks.
PEOPLE….STAY AWAY FROM YAHOO, THEY SUCK!
Faith
Rob said,
July 6, 2007 at 6:14 am
YAHOO SUCKS! Let me get that right out of the way. Apparently like so many before me, I just had my 6 yr. old profile “suspended”. They give no warning, just hijack all of your info emails, documents, photos, everything. The TOS Nazis give no warning and no explanation. I have since switched to Google for email and have to say that it is light years ahead of yahoo’s archaic service. They claim to have customer service, but I think it’s just a little man behind a curtain. A terrible company, gets what is coming to it in the long run. They continually lose ground to Google and that makes me smile inside. There is nothing left to do know besides make my 5 troll accounts and wreak havoc on their little yahoo answers service. If they didn’t force my hand I would be checking my email on my old profile instead.
saba said,
September 19, 2007 at 3:40 pm
my yahoo id of 6 years got suspended today. i only use yahoo mail (extensively) and groups (sparingly). i spoke with 3 agents at the customer service, have submitted a few contact forms, and have also sent an email to reportabuse@cc.yahoo-inc.com. has anyone ever had their yahoo account reinstated? the people i talked to were very nice and helpful but they said that the decision lay with the privacy policy department and they will look into the matter in 12-48 hours. i’m waiting.
Grant said,
December 13, 2007 at 11:28 pm
I moved my domain to yahoo hosting today but decided to cancel the account after spending several hours learning about its control panel and what its hosting servers can and cannot do. Unlike the other hosting companies I dealt with, Yahoo does not support forms created with FrontPage. The account set-up was not a pleasant experience and I found setting up e-mail accounts for various users time-consuming… Yahoo! sucks.
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randy said,
January 21, 2008 at 1:37 pm
Better then yahoo mail
nancy steen said,
June 21, 2008 at 9:12 pm
I would like to hear from anyone interested in taking legal action against yahoo. They took my domain name for no reason and it was for my business I have owned for over 3 years. Yahoo can not play judge and jury. They need to be stopped.
nancy said,
July 7, 2008 at 1:15 am
i am all for a class action suit against these cyber nazis.
they deactivated my account and upon calling these assholes was told that i had violated their fucking TOS,BUT WOULD NOT TELL ME WHAT PARTICULAR ITEM I HAD ALLEGEDLY VIOLATED.
yAHOOS TOS appear to be unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable
but the trick is getting them into a federal court.i strongly suggest that everyone here file a complaint w/the attorney generals office in the state you reside.FTC whatever you can think of .it is unconscienceable that they will KEEP YOUR PERSONAL FILES w/o A godamned detailed explantion detailing their complaint..it is completely illegal.